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Any patient sitting in a doctor's office can be surreptitiously recording the entire conversation now, and the medical profession has many concerns. These are articulated in JAMA Viewpoint, March 12, 2015. Excerpts (references omitted):

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Ethical Implications of Patients and Families Secretly Recording Conversations With Physicians

Michelle Rodriguez, JD; Jason Morrow, MD, PhD; Ali Seifi, MD

Corresponding Author: Ali Seifi, MD, Department of Neurosurgery, University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, Mail Code 7843, 7703 Floyd Curl Dr, San Antonio, TX 78229-3900 (seifi@uthscsa.edu).


With recent advances in technology, smartphones can become recording devices with the touch of a button. This technological capability gives patients and their families the ability to easily and surreptitiously record conversations with physicians. The frequency of such recordings or whether they even occur is unknown. The ubiquity of smartphones, however, suggests the potential for secret recordings to occur. As of January 2014, 58% of Americans owned a smartphone, including 83% of young adults. Although recording conversations with physicians may provide some benefit for patients and their families, secret recordings can undermine patient-physician relationships and ultimately affect the provision of health care.

Federal law prohibits recording a private conversation unless at least one party to the conversation consents to the recording. That party may include either the person operating the recording device or others. Several states, such as California and Florida, provide additional protections by requiring that all parties to a conversation consent to the recording. In states without the additional protections, a patient or family member could surreptitiously record a conversation with a physician without fear of legal repercussions, provided no other laws were violated.

Although patients and their physicians may explicitly agree to record a family meeting, anecdotal experience and isolated reports suggest that some patients have done so covertly. Physician reactions to this have been mixed. Some physicians focus on the benefits of recording conversations for the patients and their families. Others focus on feeling vulnerable to the manipulations of those who may harbor negative intentions. So do the benefits of recordings outweigh the potential harms?

Recording conversations could be beneficial for patients. Patients do not always understand or recall all the information provided during visits to physicians. Recordings could potentially improve accuracy, adherence, and personal engagement by providing opportunities to review conversations at other times, from the comfort of home, and in conjunction with other family members or caregivers.

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Not all possible uses of these recorded conversations are beneficial to patients and physicians. Patients or family members who disagree with the advice of their physicians or who are upset with their physicians for whatever reason can easily take comments from these recordings out of context and, with a few keystrokes, disseminate them via social media. Patients can conceivably record conversations with the specific intent of establishing the grounds for a lawsuit or gathering material with which to manipulate a physician.
When a conversation is recorded without a physician’s consent, the nature of the relationship between patient and physician can change. Physicians who suspect secret recordings or learn of them after the fact may believe that their perceived right to consent to recordings has been violated. They may feel vulnerable because of the one-sided protections conferred by law to patient-physician communications. This can threaten the integrity of an existing patient-physician relationship and predispose a physician to assume a posture of distrust toward future patients.

Patients, on the other hand, may feel reassured by laws such as HIPAA and related privacy laws proscribing unauthorized scrutiny by spouses, employers, courts, or others. Legal protections and codes of professional ethics protect patients and encourage open and honest communication with physicians for the purposes of ensuring safe and appropriate health care.

Physicians have no such legal protections in their interactions with patients. Patients are not limited in conveying the content of their conversations with physicians to others. However, until recently, it was technologically impossible for most patients to surreptitiously record conversations with their physicians. Thus, a physician’s exact words during a conversation could not be recalled, scrutinized, and dissected for whatever purpose at a later time. This is no longer the case.

Moreover, the potentially surreptitious nature of recordings engenders a culture of mistrust and suspicion. Physicians who suspect they are being recorded without their consent would likely and understandably question a patient’s or family’s motives. Without intending, physicians may then question their own decision making, rethink their assessments and recommendations, and ask themselves how someone else—perhaps a lawyer or judge—would evaluate their decisions. Physicians may then feel more inclined to order additional tests and imaging than they otherwise would, practicing defensive medicine and potentially increasing health care costs. Even though physicians could terminate their relationships with patients they suspect of surreptitious recordings, this could give rise to additional disruptions in individual patient-physician relationships and perhaps undermine public trust in physicians and the medical establishment.

How, then, can physicians protect themselves from the potentially negative effects of surreptitious recordings? For better or worse, the technological advances cannot be undone. Several strategies exist for the medical profession. Changing federal or state laws related to the recording of private conversations is not one of them, at least not in the short term. This would take years, if not decades, and would require inordinate capital and political effort. Furthermore, the public will undoubtedly question what it is physicians are seeking to hide by attempting to change the law to prohibit recordings without their consent. What response could possibly outweigh the need for transparency in physician decision making in the patient-centered culture of health care?

As is often the case when anticipating ethical challenges in patient-physician relationships, the solution lies with physicians. The first and most essential strategy entails being aware of and embracing the possibility that every conversation with a patient or his or her family may be recorded. Physicians can use this knowledge as an incentive to ensure that their words convey sensitive information efficiently, effectively, and compassionately. Professionalism requires not only honesty but also a commitment to developing effective communication skills. If the possibility of recording causes physicians to refine their skills and, in their intimate moments with families, to pause and reassess their choice of words, then physicians should consider this possibility as an opportunity to grow as health care professionals and strengthen patient-physician relationships.
If a physician suspects that a conversation is being recorded, that physician could handle the situation in several different ways that could benefit all parties. Doing so would first require that the physician be aware of the possibility of secret recordings. The physician can ask the patient if he or she is recording the conversation. Then, regardless of the answer, the physician can express assent, note constructive uses of such recordings, and educate the patient about the privacy rights of other patients so as to avoid any violations. Taking such an approach would demonstrate the physician’s openness and desire to strengthen the relationship with the patient. The physician could also ignore any suspicions and provide care as he or she normally would without letting the possibility of recording affect either attitude toward the patient or medical decision making.

Unless federal or state laws change, physicians should be aware of the possibility that their conversations with patients may be recorded. If physicians embrace this possibility, establish good relationships with their patients, provide compassionate and competent care, and communicate effectively and professionally, the motives of patients and families in recording visits will be irrelevant.
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I've never been prompted to try recording any conversation surreptitiously. Doctors are perturbed and feel violated if a patient records a conversation.

If they're not doing anything wrong, though, why should they mind? It would be more civilized if the patient would ask the doctor's permission first, it seems to me.

Maybe it's time to tip the scales a bit in favor of the patient and tolerate these recording devices. After all, patients are often apt to forget what was said in the time they spend with their doctors, partly because of tension, partly because so much information often comes at them at once. Patients are often advised to take someone with them as a memory aid. Why shouldn't patients make recordings of these very important conversations?

And, after all, doctors routinely leave their visits with a patient and immediately start recording their version of what happened. I've seen doctors doing this.  What a doctor reports as being said isn't quite the same as what was actually said, and yet the doctor's notes as they appear in a patient's file are usually the only record there is.

More on this in MedPage Today, March 19, 2015:

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Patients Will Record Encounters, and Docs Must Adjust

It's time to reconsider fear of recording devices.

 
by Shara Yurkiewicz MD
Staff Writer, MedPage Today

Physicians must accept the possibility that every conversation with a patient may be secretly recorded by the patient, wrote two physicians and a lawyer in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

That is the first step for physicians to protect themselves from possible negative consequences of such encounters, said Michelle Rodriguez, JD, who is also a medical student, and colleagues at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio, in a Viewpoint.


Federal law allows the recording of a private conversation as long as at least one party to the conversation consents to the recording. Some states, such as California and Massachusetts, require the consent of all parties to record.
Trying to change the law would be a long, expensive, and not necessarily fruitful process, wrote [the] authors.

Instead, they urged physicians to "embrace" the situation, arguing that they should use it as an opportunity to refine their communication skills and strengthen the patient-doctor bond.

If a doctor suspects that a conversation is being recorded, he or she should ask the patient. "Then, regardless of the answer, the physician can express assent, note constructive uses of such recordings, and educate the patient about the privacy rights of other patients so as to avoid any violations," [the] authors wrote.

Rodriguez and colleagues acknowledged that recording without asking physicians first may change the nature of the patient-physician relationship. For example, doctors may feel vulnerable or mistrustful with current or future patients.


Personal accounts by physicians reflect these feelings. "I feel violated," wrote one pseudonymous blogger. "It angers me, and I automatically lose trust in that patient and their family."

Some posters on a popular online forum for physicians agreed. "Personally I really dislike this and it makes me awkward/uncomfortable," wrote one poster.

"I had a report one day that one of my patients was recording me with a tape recorder in his pocket. When I confronted him, he would not confirm or deny it. 'So what if I was?' he asked. I sent him a discharge letter because he was so smug and asinine about it," said another poster.

But ultimately, Rodriguez and colleagues argued, the motives of patients and families are irrelevant. Physicians must continue to establish good relationships with their patients, be compassionate, and act professionally regardless.

This is not the first time physicians have suggested their peers use the rising tide of recording to their advantage.

The fear of recording for use in litigation is a legitimate one, Deep Ramachandran, MD, a pulmonary and critical care physician in Michigan, wrote in a post on KevinMD.

But he encouraged doctors not to assume the worst about patients who record conversations. The practice may be beneficial for recall of information by patients or family members.

At the same time, he encouraged patients to ask before hitting record. "So to my patients who feel the need to secretly make recordings of our conversation, please feel free the ask the question, 'May I record this conversation?' You'll find the answer is often 'Yes, please do!'" Ramachandran wrote.

Roger Kirby, MD, a urologist and director of The Prostate Centre in London, wrote that physicians have an obligation to treat patients even if they discover covert recording. "... you may be upset by the intrusion, but if you act in a professional manner at all times, then it should not really pose a problem," he wrote in [a] post in BJU International [British Journal of Urology International].

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Authors disclosed no relevant relationships with industry.

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Journal of the American Medical Association

Source Reference: Rodriguez M, et al "Ethical implications of patients and families secretly recording conversations with physicians" JAMA 2015: DOI: 10.1001/jama.2015.2424.

The article can be seen here.
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